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 Two (or Three) Proposals for Roncesvalles

A key streetscape priority for the BIA and the community has been the creation of bumpouts, or extensions of the sidewalk onto the street (click here to view an example). These would become new public spaces, allowing for new uses such as patios, benches, gardens or public art. It is hoped that such bumpouts would become part of the major Roncesvalles reconstruction scheduled for 2008 2009 (UPDATE: The project will likely be delayed. Click here for more details).

In May, the City unveiled a preliminary proposal that called for bumpouts at just about every corner along Roncesvalles, onto the side streets but also the main street itself. An advantage of the City’s proposal was that the bumpouts that encroached onto Roncesvalles would not greatly affect existing parking along the street. The BIA also liked the fact that the plan would increase access to parking by removing a peak period traffic lane (the southbound parking lane has no parking during rush hour).

A disadvantage is that these bumpouts would prevent cars from passing or turning right without blocking the streetcar. As a result, the TTC was concerned that the bumpouts onto Roncesvalles might slow down the 504 streetcar, the busiest in Toronto. (The bumpouts onto the side streets pose no problem with anyone, as far as we can tell.)

In July, the TTC presented a counter-proposal. It also has many advantages. For pedestrians, the proposal would add far more sidewalk space. For some restaurants, it would open the possibility of true sidewalk patios along the main street itself. Other businesses may welcome the ability to add new sidewalk displays. Disembarking from the streetcar onto a curb is a significant safety and accessibility feature.

However, the plan also requires the loss of a significant number of existing parking spaces along Roncesvalles. The plan would also remove the northbound left turn at Howard Park (and perhaps other intersections).

Northbound at Howard Park

Photo: TTC

Widening the Sidewalk: A proposal by the TTC suggests widening the sidewalk in order to allow riders to step from the streetcar onto the curb. This would allow greater use of the sidewalk, including patios and merchandise displays. The proposal would significantly reduce on-street parking, however.

It must be emphasized that both the TTC’s and the City’s proposals are preliminary. They have been presented in order to create a dialogue and to help establish the principles for a more comprehensive plan.

Representatives of the BIA, the three neighboring residents’ associations and Roncesvalles Renewed recently met with City and TTC staff at Councillor Gord Perks‘ office to discuss the two proposals. The community representatives were unified in their response, excited by the prospect of new public space, but with some concerns. Along with Councillor Perks, we urged the City and the TTC to ensure that their plan

  • enhances public space,
  • minimizes the loss of on-street parking,
  • examines alternatives to total left-turn prohibitions, and
  • considers the impact of traffic restrictions on local neighborhoods and side streets.

If the City, the TTC and the community are unable to agree on a bumpout plan, there remains a third option - to eliminate main street bumpouts from the plan altogether.

What is important to you? Please have a look at the TTC’s proposal and consider how you would best balance the needs of businesses, pedestrians, transit riders, shoppers, residents and other stakeholders. Click below to leave your comments.

UPDATE: These proposals are being discussed on Steve Munro’s always informative blog. Please click on Reinventing Roncesvalles. For some background info, you might also wish to view Steve’s analysis of the issues facing the King Streetcar. Part One here, and Part Two here. (SECOND UPDATE: Steve has now posted several more detailed analyses of the 504 King line, and is now up to Part VIIwhew! To read ‘em all, click here.)

   Letter to the Community Minimize

Hello Neighbours,
 
During the Roncesvalles festival last fall, many of you were kind enough to pass along your email contacts to members of Roncesvalles Renewed.
 
As you recall, Roncesvalles Renewed is a community-based group working with residents, business owners, the TTC and politicians and planners at City Hall to help advise on the infrastructure project, which we’ve nicknamed the “Little Dig” (after Boston’s “Big Dig”) that will be happening along Roncesvalles.
 
The work involves reconstructing the streetcar rails along Roncesvalles, from Boustead at the north end of Roncesvalles -- all the way down to the south where King, Queen and Roncesvalles meet.
 
The work gives us a once in a generation opportunity to discuss how to make Roncesvalles an even better street.
 
Councillor Gord Perks is organizing a general public meeting in February to update the community on where the project stands.  For now, it’s still not determined whether the work will happen this coming summer or whether it will be delayed until next year.
We will send you word as soon as we have a date and venue for that meeting.
 
Meantime, this past Saturday, members of Roncesvalles Renewed met at the High Park library to discuss the latest proposal from the City of Toronto and the TTC. 
 
This latest plan marks a significant shift in the philosophy at City Hall.  It tips the emphasis in transportation planning away from cars towards public transit and pedestrians. 
 
We have a new website,  roncesvallesrenewed.org , we’d like you to see.  Please explore it and even better, begin contributing to the discussions online.
 
Right now, much of the discussion revolves around the location and design of sidewalk bumpouts.  These bumpouts will expand the sidewalk space at numerous locations, creating a more generous pedestrian space that allows for more street furniture and an expanded tree canopy.  The bumpouts are also intended to make it easier to board the new low-floor streetcars which you can expect to see on city streets in another three years or so.
 
There’s more information about the proposed bump-outs at our new website.  (link to bumpout)  If you’d like to let us know what you think of the bumpouts, we’ve created an informal survey on the website.  There’s also a very helpful section of frequently asked questions and answers about the project.
 
There are at least 3 things we are asking folks to do

  1. review the plans for Roncesvalles, so you  are familiar with them
  2. talk to your friends and neighbours to make sure as many people as  possible know the exciting plans for Roncesvalles, and
  3. find us someone to be the content manager (webmaster).
     

Our next priority is to begin publicizing what is happening and making sure our local businesses are supported throughout the upheaval, through a campaign encouraging residents to shop locally, particularly as the reconstruction proceeds.
 
If you’d like to be part of the Outreach Committee, which will be coming up with some fun ways both to publicize what is happening, and to support our local businesses, please let us know.
 
And we’d like to hear about any other ideas you may have for making Roncesvalles a better street. 
 
You can also respond directly to this email, and we’ll be happy to get back to you.
 
Sincerely,
Mary Wiens
Martha Goodings
For Roncesvalles Renewed


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